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WADear Tom,
Oh, now I understand. You were surprised at Twain's judgment of religion coming after his "dream" speech. Got it.
And I really like the way you put this.... "After all one generally finds their self up to something and it might as well be these things."
I will try to listen to Twain as soon as possible. Right now I'm working to finish a new book - much more "radical" than Butterflies, I guess, having to do with the latest thinking in physics about ancestor simulations, and whether or not we might be one.
As always, thanks for your interesting input on this Guestbook.
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WADear Tom,
What a great quote! Thanks.
I must admit, though, that I am just a little confused.... you quoted Twain as saying "It is true, that which I have revealed to you; there is no God, no universe, no human race, no earthly life, no heaven, no hell. It is all a dream--a grotesque and foolish dream. Nothing exists but you."
So why are you surprised "that subsequent writings by Twain railed against religion." I don't understand.
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NYDear Dmitriy,
The most true thing you said was "I can't seem to figure out a way to test with certainty whether free will truly exists in the model," because the only way to actually test it is to live it.
Now, using your example, it all depends on what experience the II has chosen for you. If the experience is to see what your reaction/response would be if you touched a hot stove, then your reaction/response will be whatever your free will chooses, like pulling your hand off quickly. If, on the other hand, your II wants you to burn your hand so badly so that you have to decide whether to go to the hospital (testing your Christian Scientist beliefs), then you will keep your hand on the stove and your reaction/response doesn't start until after you can move your hand off the stove.
This is not difficult to understand once you start doing the work. And yes, I never said that our reactions don't include some "action," and yes, we are creators of those actions. As Players we make "actions" happen all the time in our holograms. I'm making lots of actions happen in my own hologram just sitting here typing this answer to you.
That may or may not help you, but the thing that would help you the most is to stop letting your ego create "intellectual arguments" (as you say) to delay its demise and just start doing the work.
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NCDear Dr. Ali,
Sounds like you're having fun swimming in the Pacific Ocean! Glad I could be part of your path there...
And thanks for sharing your thoughts on the Game. I will let some of them sink in before I comment, if a comment is warranted.
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SpainDear David,
Well said!
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FLDear Howard,
I have no idea what you're talking about. I only know that the sun I see is white, whatever that means to you.
I also know that everything we Players see is a hologram, because we are inside the hologram, not outside looking at it. Therefore, if there is such a thing as a "Sagittarius yellow sun," perceived by a Player, it was most definitely a hologram. Nothing else is possible for players in the Human Game (which I probably more correctly should be called the Humanoid Game!)
I will not say that the hologram you are perceiving is "wrong." I will only say that I don't see the same hologram, and am not particularly interested in it at the moment. At least not on this Comment board, which is dedicated to questions and comments from Players about their experiences with applying the holographic model in their lives.
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FLDear Howard,
No, never heard that theory. With everything being discovered these days, I'm not ruling out anything.
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WashingtonDear Tom,
Thanks for sharing your board, even though "what is on that board is for me only."
If you don't mind, I will share two off my own "board" dealing with non-judgment:
The opposite of everything is true.
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
and treat those two imposters just the same.
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CADear Randall,
Very interesting. Of course, I wish he had decided on a different conclusion than creating more beliefs. But I wonder whether he has touched on something very important - that every Player needs hope, and beliefs can provide that hope - false hope though it may be. So does this Model, in letting go of beliefs, have a side-effect of hopelessness? Or in refusing to live on false hope based on inaccurate beliefs, is any feeling of hopelessness simply an indication that you're getting "there" and to keep going? Anyone want to comment?
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WADear Tom,
I think there are a lot of us looking around and asking the same questions. I am watching "When They See Us" on Netflix and, while I usually get really pissed at the downright evil on display, not to mention the ignorance of the jury, I was particularly struck this time with the fact that not one system I can think of in the U.S. is working as it should these days. The judicial system stopped working when jury nullification and the citizen's grand jury were abolished. The political system stopped working, as predicted, when "the voters discovered that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury." The education system began failing when teachers were given tenure and were no longer held accountable for their products. The economic system failed when corporations could get special favors from government in violation of a free market.
All of these systems are in deep trouble today, as if the snot-nosed kid sitting in the basement of his parents' house in an alien civilization creating our simulation on its computer (according to Neil DeGrasse Tyson) either doesn't understand what it's doing or is intentionally breaking everything down in order to glean the neurochemicals from our bodies that the emotions of our reaction/responses generate.
Either way, it doesn't matter. We, as Players, are the only ones interested in our own peace of mind. So you are absolutely right when you say "You will not realize that you are living in a dream if there is justice, and when you are rewarded for your efforts, when your peers and family honor you, when your contributions and worth are recognized, when your ideas are listened to and celebrated. Those things are for those who are asleep." And being asleep is not conducive to peace of mind.
I join you in expressing appreciation for the insanity of a broken world, for it forces me to let go of beliefs, opinions, judgments and fears if I want to maintain peace of mind.
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United kingdomDear Ibrahim,
I cannot possibly know why your Infinite I would create anything for you. That is a purely personal matter between you and your Infinite I. Hell, I hardly know why my Infinite I creates some of my own experiences.
I could GUESS at several possible reasons, just to give you examples....
Maybe to give you the opportunity not to judge your abuser(s).
Maybe to give your abusers the opportunity to wake up to their own behavior.
Maybe to bring up certain beliefs you cling to that you might decide to let go of when they are pointed out to you.
All of which would be very valid reasons for your Infinite I to create those experiences, and for which you might want to express your gratitude.
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