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5:58pm 05-14-2021

Sebastian

Location (State or Country)

Poland

I agree Stephen, I just wish that everyone could talk about this with easyness. But it looks like no one seems to notice, no one seems to care. Today money are important for most of the people(Human Childs). I know, I still judge, I'm still far away yet, or maybe not, I doesn't matter here. Nothing matters. There is only one question. What makes you happy? And why the hell you are still not doing it???
And of course, I'm writing this to myself.
That's a nice SA exercice by the way.
I have a question to Stephen Davies the author,
Are you still looking for something? Did you find all you need?
What is your bigger dream?

Replied on: 7:05pm 05-14-2021

Dear Sebastian,

In one sense, I found what I was looking for - peace of mind, sometimes called "serenity of beingness." Part of it came from understanding what the experts are telling us - that we live in a holographic universe - which satisfied my need for a much more logical explanation for "reality" than I had been given before. And an even bigger part came from the development of a Model that included an external source ("Infinite I") for our experiences.

Am I still looking for something? Yes. I would like a better understanding of what I term my "Infinite I." In other words, I want to know more about the "something or someone" who is choosing my holographic experiences, which is why I am really fascinated with the theory of ancestor simulations.

My bigger dream is to live in a community of people who are together to actively work on letting go of their opinions, beliefs, judgments and fears, and experiencing life without so much ego. I imagine it might be quite exciting and liberating. (I did live for a while in an intentional community that came close, called Tamera, in Portugal.)

2:37pm 05-02-2021

Stephen

Location (State or Country)

NC

There's so much happening in the world of physics research that it's hard to keep up. A reader recently sent me a link to an organization in California called Quantum Gravity Research Institute. They have a series of interesting videos outlining their theory that our holographic universe has its source in an 8th dimensional structure called E8, as String Theory has proven to be severely lacking. For a brief explanation in simple terms, try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJi3_znm7ZE.

Essentially, they are seeking a unified Theory of Everything, trying to reconcile Einstein's General and Special Relativity with quantum mechanics. From my viewpoint, they are doing some exciting theorizing about how our holographic universe is created - as a 3 dimensional projection of the 8th dimensional E8 crystal.

But the question remains: who/what is choosing the projection angles for E8 to create our 3D experiences. As far as I have gone into their research, they don't seem to have an answer yet that would replace my Infinite I model. But I still find their work worth studying, if you are so inclined.

I mean, they probably have a better theory than anyone else about how our holographic universe is technically created, but to me that's not the most important question to be answered. "Who chooses" is much more pertinent to everyday life, isn't it?

6:18pm 04-26-2021

Tom

Location (State or Country)

Washington

The most beautiful human soul I've ever encountered was my mother, and her favorite philosopher was Alan Watts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Sv_Bv1H7BQ

Replied on: 9:10pm 04-26-2021

Dear Tom,

What a beautiful video! And a good message from Alan Watts. And you're a lucky man to have had a mother like that!

6:29pm 04-19-2021

Randall

Location (State or Country)

CA

I'll try and be pithy.

It's always touch and go for me these days. There are many reasons the butterfly analogy applies.

Interacting with the theater can be like trying to flutter around in a hurricane at times. Not having (or needing) to subject myself to try and achieve something of worthy note does create somewhat of a rub with people. I'm sort of hot and cold. Following one's excitement can be very unpredictable, and unsettling for some that try and interact with it.

In the beginning though I sense their excited, but that fades rather quickly. Inevitably, on some level, they believe I'm also playing by the same rules as they are, even after I show them (demonstrate) as best I can the actual rules I'm a player by (see pdf of player rules) but they still believe that is truly not possible, and eventually think, given enough pressure, I'll comply with what they want me to be and the experience begins its inevitable decay which allows something new to begin, over, and over, and over. It's a pretty well established pattern now.

No matter how much I try to emphasize to others that things will change for me quite abruptly if there's excessive drama they cannot seem to help themselves. It's like they want to be their own worst enemy.

Of course I know how this all works, interacting with the theater, as a butterfly, understanding that they are playing the first half of the human game and that means even when I'm experiencing limitlessness, they can't help trying to make sense out of struggling to make things better, which inevitably has something to do with their expectations of me I can't help them with.

I'm under no illusion (false assumption) that my presence there will help them see the light, nor do I feel that I'm here in this state for that reason. In fact people most often become annoyed by what they sense to be a lack of commitment.

I like to work but I don't take it that serious. Mainly because it's not butterfly-like too. I tell them that I only do what I enjoy, as I stare them in the eyes to see if that registers. So if I'm around it has to do with experiencing the many facets of the feeling.

Much to my amazement however is my wife, she gets what I am, and who I'm not. What a unexpected bonus in all of this.

Thanks Infinite I!

Replied on: 9:04pm 04-19-2021

Dear Randall,

There's nothing pithy I can add, except to reinforce your gratitude for a wife who gets you! What a gift!

11:37pm 04-14-2021

Stephen

Location (State or Country)

NC

I don't usually do two comments so close together, but there was such an interesting article I read on Yahoo tonight called "The Universe Is a Machine That Keeps Learning, Scientists Say." It's all about a new theory where cosmologists are explaining the history of the universe as one of self-teaching, autodidactic algorithms. (https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/universe-machine-keeps-learning-scientists-200700798.html)

I was so struck by this because the whole purpose of an ancestor simulation is to learn how not to do the same things the simulation "creators" did. In the case I present in my novella, "Conversations with a Snot-Nosed Kid," we are the ancestor simulation trying to avoid the same mistakes our "Zeta creators" made - which literally blew their planet out of the sky with nuclear war. When I first wrote that novella, I thought, "Nuclear war? We're beyond that, aren't we?" But as the days go on, it seems to me that we might be closer than ever, with nuclear war as the elephant in the room.

So I am very happy that scientists are now approaching our universe as something that can learn from previous mistakes, much like "natural selection," which would explain why our understanding of physics keeps changing, because the laws of physics itself keep changing. "Evolution is already a kind of learning, so when we suggest the universe has used natural selection as part of the realization of physics, we’re invoking that specific kind of learning." (from the article)

12:35pm 04-13-2021

Stephen

Location (State or Country)

NC

I just wanted to assure anyone who might be having difficulty letting go of judgments that I never said it would be easy. I still struggle with it at times. For example, I watched a Netflix documentary the other night called Seaspiracy, which ended with the intentional slaughter of a pod of pilot whales in the town of Hvannasund, Denmark. (You might know that I have a special bond with pilot whales, having "danced" with a wild one in the Atlantic Ocean near the Canary Islands.) I was so enraged by this totally unnecessary slaughter that I literally lay awake for hours trying to figure out how I could take an M16 to Hvannasund next time they try this and gun down everyone in sight, in boats and on the land. "Let them experience what they do to these beautiful creatures!" I finally gave up only because I couldn't figure out logistically how to make it actually happen. It has taken me a week to process this judgment, and the only thing that made it possible was Spiritual Autolysis and the constant reminder that it was just a total immersion movie.

There's another judgment I have found particularly difficult to deal with, and that's physical pain. I know that I am judging it to be "wrong" because I resist it so much. Of course, I realize that what you judge will persist, but again it's not easy.

It's been 10 years since I came out of the cocoon, which Jed says it takes to get used to living this new Model. And so I want to let everyone know that it works, but it doesn't mean you never have to do Spiritual Autolysis again!

10:16am 04-12-2021

Randall

Location (State or Country)

CA

The problem isn't the situation but the resistance.
—Jed

A scouts thoughts.....

Gsil — continue on with the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth.....read of Butterflies are free to fly. The trouble you mention is only an indication you are onto something, a layer or piece of one the ego would rather stay hidden from your view. Perhaps acknowledge your reason for a second pass through of the book, that helps with focus. There's something there in you now that didn't seem to be there before - you want to acknowledge it, give it the space it requires. A realization got triggered the first read and you are trying to understand some new feeling the rest of the world can't make sense of for you.

Replied on: 1:25pm 04-12-2021

Great advice, Randall. I would only add to your quote from Jed a quote from Chapter 18 of my book.... "All resistance is based on a judgment.... Although I don’t want to state this as “Truth,” it has been my experience that as long as I judge and resist something, I stay in that experience. Only when I stop judging, and therefore automatically stop resisting, is it possible for my experience to change."

8:16pm 04-10-2021

Gsil

Location (State or Country)

NY

I am reading Butterflies are free for the second time. The concepts seem to be that of Advaita Vedanta. I am still having trouble being just the screen the movie is played on and not the player. This is going on for a long time. Do you have any suggestions?

Replied on: 1:19am 04-11-2021

Dear Gsil,

Not quite sure what you mean by "the screen the movie is played on and not the player." I thought I was quite clear in my book that you ARE the Player, and the movie is being created in your brain, which is projecting it out all around you as if you were wearing a virtual reality headset. So I don't know what I can say to you. Do you want to try again and rephrase your question?

3:02pm 04-10-2021

Randall

Location (State or Country)

CA

Is the game worth the candle? Play the game.

Alan Watts

https://youtu.be/X4oI0Q62RkE

Replied on: 6:36pm 04-10-2021

Dear Randall,

Watts makes some good points. One of them - that the game must include both order and randomness - led me to think about the Model. What's the randomness in the Model? I think it is the fact that while the experience is set in stone, the reaction/response is not. In fact, the reaction/response is always in the full control of the Player's free will.

Just a thought....

7:46pm 04-06-2021

Tom

Location (State or Country)

Washington

What I mean to say is that I think it is a lot more fun to talk about experiences testing the model compared to the exact details of the model. But there wouldn't be a model that I'd be following if you Stephen weren't stoked about the details.

So instead of criticizing your approach I'll post a trip report.

Starting in December I was given an unprecedented opportunity to let go of my judgement of "losing all of my money."

Things had gotten so that I wouldn't even look at my bank account. I didn't want to see the low amount. But I did have another reason that has nothing to do with judgement; I didn't want to make it difficult for miracles to happen. I reasoned that if I didn't look, then things could flow according to a truly astonishing outcome without the hindrance of me collapsing the wave function every day when I look at the account.

There I was, no job, no prospects, no health insurance, sort of like Stephen describes happening at one point in his life. There were no government benefits coming in and I was told that I wasn't entitled to any. I also received notice that I owed a large sum (over $6,000USD) to an account which I thought had been settled.

There is nothing quite like losing it all to freshen things up. That is just what that experience was doing. Suddenly I was looking through a fresh set of eyes with nothing to protect. It looked to me like I was going to lose it all, the house, the family and also my health all seemed suddenly on the chopping block.

I reasoned that if the house and the dogs and the family and my health caused me worry instead of joy, that I was truly better off without them. One can spend their whole life trying not to lose what they hold precious and spend a life in angst with few to no precious moments experienced. That can happen inside a palace surrounded by boundless material wealth and health...and I know that it often does.

So then I suddenly knew what Jesus meant when he said "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."

No blessing is a blessing if one's time is spent trying to protect it or worrying about it.

So sometime in there money started to flow like an incoming tide at the Bay of Fundy. The debt was cancelled, my bank account was stuffed with cash.

Now listen to this. That amount of money in my bank account seemed like so much. When I saw it it seemed to me to be overflowing. Yet this was less money than I'd previously had allowed myself to find acceptable. So which would you rather have; a large bank balance and an impression of lack or a small bank balance and an impression of bounty?

Now listen to this super ironic thing; I called the bank and said "hey, um oh, I don't seem to have mortgage money right now." They replied with "no problem, just stop paying it till you get some money." That really made me laugh because I kept meaning to write to Stephen and say to him that his work too often emphasized "windfall such as not having having the bank cancel mortgage" and suddenly I did not have to pay the mortgage.

Also out of the blue I found myself with the finest health insurance with no cost to me no copays, just go to the doctor and to the pharmacist. I did go and see those and each gave me services at no charge.

I received a job offer working with people that I find fun and exciting and doing interesting work. I've accepted it and we are all starting to get super excited about the work.

Of course now I'm being given new opportunities to drop judgement and to stop trying to protect other things that I hold precious. I don't expect this sort of thing to ever stop. I will be completely satisfied for that to be the journey and destination all rolled into one.

So the Infinite-I model is holding up. And that same can probably be said for the simulation model.

Here's a juicy bit of information about something I've come to notice- Do you remember in the movie The Matrix that Deja Vu is a sign of a glitch in the Matrix? Well in our reality instead of Deja Vu it is irony... and its not a glitch, its something else. But irony is a big deal so watch for it. Maybe we'll find out something about it. Maybe its a sign that tides are turning. For now, to me it is some sort of assurance from...?

Replied on: 12:23am 04-07-2021

Dear Tom,

Great, GREAT story! And spot on. Yes, it seems that the Model works, and I appreciate hearing about your experiences with it. Keep us posted!

10:32pm 04-05-2021

Tom

Location (State or Country)

Washington

Far from confirmed-

What happened to the discussions of models? That is the appeal of the Holographic Universe series and Butterflies are free. Stephen is (was) very clear that "we are talking about a model here" in those works. More recently it seems that the conversation has "arrived" at "this is how things are."

The Microsoft EXCEL software can fit a curve to a group of data giving the user the choice about whether to make the curve linear or to choose the order of the polynomial of that curve. These curves and equations are models which approximate the actual the behavior of phenomena. One can plug variables into this model and useful output is assured.

Stephen proposed a model to us where you can do things like hand out all the money from your 401k out on the street, smiling as you distribute $50s and $100s from 40 years of saving and rest assured that there were no consequences because your experience was likely to conform to a a model in which one is a player for an Infinite I in a Holographic Universe. Some of us tried these types of things and the results are hilarious, preposterous, confounding and predictable in that they are in no way predictable.

The Simulation Model may come in handy but I don't think there is any way that humans are right about this. If you've got any experience with humans, then you already know why they aren't right about these sorts of things.

But if your life experiences haven't revealed that about humans here's the most excellent treatise on the subject of humans and their knowing and habits and what comes of their actions and plans and beliefs. It also proposes a model and if you look at it closely in many ways it parallels the models Stephen has introduced us to.

I'd love to hear some feedback on this book

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqlzI4QZPCI

Replied on: 1:12am 04-06-2021

Dear Tom,

When research (like the double slit experiment) proves that electrons are waves until observed by consciousness, we need to adjust our thinking accordingly. The article Randall referred to is suggesting (among other things) that the speed of light proves we are living in a simulation, and offers some (apparently) pretty good logic to back up this theory.

For me, proof like that simply supports The Model I suggest in my book - which remains a model that still needs to be tested in real life. But we shouldn't ignore valid research that can take that model and support it, and expand it.

My point is that using YOUR logic, when the double slit experiment was first performed on electrons by Davisson and Germer in 1927, you would have said that "I don't think there is any way that humans are right about this. If you've got any experience with humans, then you already know why they aren't right about these sorts of things."

For me, the question of whether we live in a holographic universe has been answered. But exactly who is calling the shots (creating our experiences) is not quite as clear. If we indeed live in a simulation, it gives us a clue to who that might be (i.e., a better understanding of the identity of the "Infinite I"). I find that to be an exciting prospect, and therefore I take the approach of: If Fouad Khan is right, let's assume a simulation, and now what would that mean in our daily lives?

After all, don't forget we're on a ride in an amusement park, as Bill Hicks would say, and try not to take it so seriously.

I will try to find the time to listen to Mark Twain's book. Thanks for the link.

7:35pm 04-04-2021

Randall

Location (State or Country)

CA

Confirmed! We Live in a Simulation

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/confirmed-we-live-in-a-simulation/

But even if we assume that the character and the environment are separate, the character does not need a visual projection of its point of view in order to interact with the environment.

Replied on: 12:41am 04-05-2021

Dear Randall,

I absolutely LOVE articles like this. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

I don't claim to understand it all, but when he says "The speed of light is a hardware artifact showing we live in a simulated universe" - that I get. And the logic behind it is beautiful, and hopefully true.

And then, "we must not forget what the simulation hypothesis really is. It is the ultimate conspiracy theory. The mother of all conspiracy theories, the one that says that everything, with the exception of nothing, is fake and a conspiracy designed to fool our senses. All our worst fears about powerful forces at play controlling our lives unbeknownst to us, have now come true. And yet this absolute powerlessness, this perfect deceit offers us no way out in its reveal. All we can do is come to terms with the reality of the simulation and make of it what we can." So well said! And in my mind underlines the whole point I was trying to make in my book: We have no power to change the experience, only the free will to choose how we want to react and/or respond to it - "make of it what we can."

I'm really stoked after reading this article!!!! Thanks again!

7:35pm 02-18-2021

Tom

Location (State or Country)

WA

Dear Stephen,

In my thinking both your model incorporating the Infinite-I and the simulation hypothesis are useful. I doubt that either though is accurate.

One is however much more elegant, well thought out, cool, original, surprising, fun, inspiring, warm, comforting, fear-destroying and delightful and that is the model that incorporates the Infinite-I.

In terms of delightful I recommend anyone to listen at the point in which two Infinite-Is from Infinite-land are playing games and one decides to create and use a different kind of player called "female", and to do the equivalent of tying one hand behind the player's back. It it something you could read to a child and it would leave them transfixed and asking to be read those parts over and over.

There are no accurate models in this world so why not go for delightful and useful.

A lot of folks (non-existent dream characters) seem to be hopping on the simulation hypothesis bandwagon. I find it interesting but it feels cold whereas the Infinite-I model has a warmth about it.

As for the suggestion that any of your work might be improved-

I saw the first Star Wars movie when I was seventeen in a movie theater about two weeks after its initial release. That movie was all done with scale models and was so super cool. Then years later George Lucas got it in his head that new is better and chose to revise his own work to include lots of CGI. And he replaced the gritty-cool vibe with tepid changes such as to have "Greedo shoot first" rather than to have Han shoot first as was done in the original movie.

Here's a parody video of Gotye's "somebody that I used to know" which makes fun of George Lucas second guessing and changing the creation of the original star wars movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlbPXZEpRE

Nothing could be better than the book and video series exactly the way they are. I have listened to parts of these works hundreds of times in my car and while going to sleep.

Replied on: 12:33am 04-05-2021

Dear Tom,

I have to apologize.... For some reason, I did not become aware of this comment until tonight (April 4, 2021). Don't know how it fell through the cracks, but it did.

As for your statement that the simulation hypothesis "feels cold whereas the Infinite-I model has a warmth about it," that may simply be the result of learning how to talk about it - what language to use - since the whole simulation concept is so new. For example, please take a look at Randall's comment above and go read the actual article and then let me know what you think....

Like the sentence, "as with characters in Grand Theft Auto, our product mostly likely is for the benefit of someone experiencing our lives through us." I immediately went to that imaginary conversation between two Infinite Is that you mentioned from my book.

4:17pm 02-17-2021

Stephen

Location (State or Country)

NC

Well said, Tom!

I would, however, like to expand on my agreement with Paul about the term “Infinite I.” Yes, you're right: "the moniker is fun and thought provoking." But it simply may not be accurate. At the time of writing my book, I was not aware of the possibilities of ancestor simulations. Perhaps I should have been, because 7 years earlier Bostrom had come up with his Simulation Hypothesis, and Philip K. Dick was even earlier – in 1977. But I wasn't aware. All I knew is that whatever – whoever – was creating our holographic experiences had to be on the other side of The Field that was used to choose certain frequencies. Since we are finite, I reasoned that that "whatever – whoever" would be Infinite.

That could easily not be true. If, as Neil deGrasse Tyson suggests, it is a "some snot-nosed kid sitting in front of his computer in the basement of his parents' house somewhere in an alien civilization programming our world purely for his own entertainment," then that "kid" doesn't have to be "Infinite." But he/she is still outside the Field he/she is using to create our ancestor simulation. So, the Kid qualifies to be my Infinite I, in terms of fulfilling all the functions I assign to an Infinite I, without actually being Infinite.

As I said, I'm leaning heavily in this direction at the moment, and I think the coming years will shed a lot more light on computer simulations and maybe we'll get a better idea and a better name for my Infinite I. Meanwhile, keep a look out for a new film by Rodney Ascher called "A Glitch in the Matrix."

https://dailydead.com/sundance-2021-interview-rodney-ascher-talks-philip-k-dick-simulation-theory-and-more-for-a-glitch-in-the-matrix/

8:24pm 02-16-2021

Tom

Location (State or Country)

WA

I’m speaking to a few of Paul’s points. Paul please know that I’m glad to see your post and for there to be another interesting voice here.
Folks, I hope that I never see changes in the book or in the video presentations. That is a super slippery slope. If you find yourself needing to reread the book to understand the concepts know you’re your aren’t alone. It is a lot of material. Consider putting the audio recording on when you go to sleep. You can start at different points in the presentation and after a few months there will be few gaps in your understanding of the model.
As for the name “Infinite-I”. I think the Infinite-I is a super useful part of the model and also the moniker is fun and thought provoking.
I wrote (a few posts down) "I don't hold the understanding that there's an "Infinite I"". The reason I wrote that is because it is very easy to inadvertently develop a belief system around Stephen’s work. So while I don’t believe in an Infinite-I I do make extensive use of that model. I also know that Newtonian Mechanics do not really explain what we call the physical universe. But that doesn’t stop me from using the math to daily predict the behavior of physical systems in my profession.
With respect to Stephen’s personal experiences being part of his work…
I have ( in my imagination ) experienced Stephen’s interaction with the woman who parked her car where he had planned for a certain ambiance, I have (vicariously) captained the Cairos in tranquil seas and yet I was still “not happy”, and I have (in my mind) lived with a child who was vocalizing in a shrill tone. I have (in my imaginings) experienced Stephen’s path with various teachers and gurus including those who lost their way. I’ve shared (for reals) encounters with extreme pain and injury with Stephen and also put myself into his shoes, relying on my ex-wife and her husband to care for me. I do this same thing with other people in my life. I put myself into the situations they describe and I watch my responses and look for judgement and it’s limiting effect in my own life. Compared to seeing only through my own eyes this has greatly accelerated my study of judgement. Paul if you post about your experiences it is likely that I will also examine what my responses to your experiences are. Stephen’s accounts of navigating his experiences are integral to the purpose of his work.
But I’m posting this for the fun of it because it doesn’t matter if Stephen’s work is changed. I don’t really have any advice for anyone and the appearance of advice is just more of me having some fun here.
It may be that Stephen’s work will stand the test of time and stand as it is. Or it may, as so much philosophy and spiritual writing is- be lost or changed over time until his message is barely recognizable and his intentions all but lost. If so then that’s just how it ought to go.

“The sense of doership is false. You are a witness; so remain like that. This is the only practice that you should perform.”
Nisargadatta Majaraj

Replied on: 2:21pm 02-17-2021

Dear Tom,

Well said!

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